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Message started by dmyers on 08/24/06 at 03:46:41

Title: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by dmyers on 08/24/06 at 03:46:41

We are experiencing a suddenly new problem wherein materials previously issued to Work Orders are "disappearing".  Example - all the materials and associated costs are in a given Work Order and all are correct. Then, without warning, about half the materials suddenly show 0% issued and no cost for that particular item. The costs also leave the WIP reports. However, on JC-A Job Cost, the total material costs at the bottom of the report are still correct. In other words, the 'actual' cost column does not add up to the total shown at the bottom.
Checking the inventory files (such as IN-A), the "disappeared" materials do not show up in on-hand, but are also no longer in WIP. They are simply gone. The materials also do not show any additional or new movement when looking at transactions in IN-E.
We are unable to reproduce this,  and it does not happen on every job, but it's happened 4 times in the last month. We don't know what's causing it, nor where the materials and $$ go.
HELP!!!

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by GP50 on 08/24/06 at 04:54:50

I believe we are experiencing something of the same problem.  Materials will be issued to a work order and show up in the inventory item transaction listing but do not appear as being issued to the work order.  It appears to be happening as part of the "backflush" process for issueing materials.  Have not found any other common link to the problem.  We find this about once or twice a month.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by JNAPIER on 08/24/06 at 07:17:12

Have you guys looked at WO-O to see if the materials are in the temp file because of a record lock? Just a thought.

John

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by dmyers on 08/25/06 at 03:59:10

We don't use backflush to issue materials & I just checked WO-O, nothing there for the suspect jobs.

The frustrating part is that we can't reproduce it. We've tried (using our test company) every step that we do during a job, and can't make it happen. Thus far, it appears to be completely random.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Lynn Pantic on 08/25/06 at 12:13:08

What version?  If you rebuild the WO, do they come back?  Are the issues listed in JC-E?

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Dale on 08/25/06 at 12:58:14

evo_ERP Version 2006.1 5/8/06, and/or Classic version 2004.1 w/ IS Tech SUpport

ok - rebuilding the Work Order fixed the material issues, at least on the one job I tried it on! Thanks!

What made them go away to begin with??

Thanks again
Dale


Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by DSWAZE on 08/31/06 at 15:18:38

Lynn,
This is the same problem I am having. I posted a forum on 7/31/2006 WO-A OR DC-I NOT SHOWING ALL ISSUES
I guess I did not explain myself very clear.  Issues only start disappearing after I installed the IS Tech Updates.
Issues do show in JC-E and in inventory transactions. But does not show up in work orders. Does not happen to all work orders. Does not happen to all components.
Does not fix if I run BKREBWO in UT-A or if I answer yes in WO-A to Do you want the Estimated costs recalculated?
I hope you can help. At each month end I need to issue a report by customer to management advising dollar value of material  in  WIP (work orders). I generate a report in Access using the data from WOBOM and WORKORD, but since all the issues aren't there. I have to go back and check material issues and inventory transactions for each work order ...which is causing a one hour job to take many, many hours.

Version we are using is DBA Classic, Version 2004.1 with IS Tech Support Update 05/08/2006

Thank you
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Doreen



Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by JOHNEDWARD1964 on 12/15/06 at 08:36:15

I am having the exact same problem with inventory transactions not included in work order bill of materials issuance.

Could this be an indexing problem?  Do you think re-indexing DBA files will help ? Or maybe the problem is releated to the size of particular files, and purging may be the answer ?

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Lynn_Pantic on 12/15/06 at 08:44:46

If the JC-E shows the issues and rebuilding the work order fixes it, then I don't think it is indexing or file size, although archiving old work orders then and reindexing the files can't hurt and will speed up day to day processing and reporting.

The problem with sporadic errors like this is trying to find the common thread.  It doesn't "just happen" even though it may seem like it.  If the original issue did in fact post properly and the % issue and JC reporting was at one time correct, then the key is to identify what was subsequently done to these work orders that was not done to others.  Issue additional material?  Finished Production?  Scrap Reporting?  Lot or Serial Control?  Multiple Locations?  Bin COntrol?  SOMETHING is different.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Dale on 12/18/06 at 07:51:04

Lynn

In our normal routine, there are only a couple of things that would occur from the time all the material issues appear correct, to the next time that they do not:

1) Posting Labor through WO-F;
2) Issuing materials through WO-G;
3) Issuing materials via line-item dedication, by receiving PO's through PO-C;
4) Our nightly backup of our entire server.

We've attempted, using our test company, to duplicate the problem, trying a variety of combinations of the above. Thus far, we've not found any repeatability. As a matter of fact, we can't make it happen.

If we come up with any other observations, we'll post them.

Thanks
Dale

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by aostarly on 01/05/07 at 07:32:07

We just discovered this same issue on only one of our work orders.  We did three different issues to the work order on different days. The first date we issued material is showing on the Material in WIP report. However the other issue dates are not showing on the report. A Work Order Pick List was ran on 1-2-07 and it showed all the material issued to the WO.
When we ran the WO Pick List report yesterday afternoon, it is showing only the items issued from the first date, but IN-A has the correct on hand quantities and the issues show in Transactions.
There is nothing in WO-O and JC-E shows only the items issued on the first date, the second & third issues are not there, so JC-E is showing the same thing the Material in WIP Report is.
The only thing that we know that we have done to the system was the year end and begin 2007. Maybe there is a common link between the processes that can be looked at.

Angelle Ostarly
Windward, Inc.
EVO-ERP V2006.1 08/11/06
Build 07/21/06

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by aostarly on 01/05/07 at 08:17:33

Rebuilding the WO did fix the problem. Does anyone have any suggestions or procedures being done to
know when this happens again?
One any given day we cut at least 25 to 30 work orders, so rebuilding Work Orders on a daily basis seems a bit much until the culprit is found.
Also it maybe helpful to know that none of what happened affected the GL. It's only not being seen in the reports, so maybe it may be a report issue.


Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by fdiala on 01/16/07 at 12:31:10

Hi,

We are having the same problem now. We are on DBA 2004.1 ISTECH Update 10-31-06. I issue the material see it in the transactions but a while after it just disappears and the UOH does not change. Any fix was made to this error..

HELP please,.. I cant even think of checking other WO.. its going to mess all our inventory and WIP.

Diala

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by jkmmfg on 02/26/07 at 15:38:40

We recently "rebuilt" our company in DBA. I cleared out all old wo, ran SM-J-A and ran SM-JC then we ran a physical inventory.  In just 3 weeks after the first of the year we began to see the same problem with material issued through WO-G or received through PO-C "disappearing" from the work order and/or the inventory transactions.  I have reports that prove it was issued and my on-hand and job costs are correct - but the transaction is gone.  I've looked in the record file through maintain database but have been unsuccessful in finding the missing transaction.
We experienced this problem with DBA prior to our "rebuild" I had chalked it up to the database being too big and I had sincerely hoped this would have fixed the problem.  I have spent 2 years chasing this sporatic problem, I truly need the tracability of my material issues.  Please let me know if this is being addressed in any future update. :o

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Dale on 02/26/07 at 19:43:21

We have been experiencing this problem for some time now (my original post dates back to August), with no change. It seems to happen randomly, and we have not been able to find a connection to anything that we do. We can't make it happen either. 15 or 20 Work Orders will go through just fine, then one or two will hiccup. When we notice it happens, we just routinely rebuild work order costs under WO-K-H
We just installed all the updates, up to and including 2/14. Since we just did this over the weekend, I don't know if this problem is fixed or not now. I'll keep you posted.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by jkmmfg on 02/27/07 at 07:20:12

Dale,
do you loose inventory transaction history and does running WO-K-H fix your transaction history in IN-E?

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Dale on 02/27/07 at 07:31:40

We do not lose transaction histories. That's the conflict that we saw - there were transactions showing up in all the inventory screens, but not in the work orders.

Since we have multiple checks throughout our process, we also know that the Work Orders were correct at one point, then they're not.

Running WO-K-H always fixes it.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by DSWAZE on 03/01/07 at 16:06:47

Has anyone been able to resolve this problem? Just found out today, the problem is happening again.

Thank you
Doreen Swaze

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by DSWAZE on 03/02/07 at 10:40:45

Lynn,
As you might have seen in a couple of my earlier posts I too am having the problem with Material Issues.  A couple things that I show happening
1) issue material to a work order through  WO-I – all material  ok in JC-E, DC-I, WO-A

2) scrap material to the same work order through WO-I  - all material  ok in JC-E, DC-I, WO-A
But, if I rebuild work order costs through WO-K-H or WO-I or WO-P, the original issues for any item that had a “scrap transaction” is no longer showing in DC-I or WO-A and shows up as a requirement in MR-G and as an allocation in IN-A..

I am also seeing this problem if I have two different issues for the same component on the same work order. Example  - Issue qty 136 of Item ABC to WO 123 on 5/25, issue balance of qty 64 on 7/26. Rebuild work order costs either through WO-K-H or WO-I or WO-P. Now the work order will only show the 64 issued on 7/26. And MR-G shows a requirement for qty 136.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong?  :-/

Thank you,
Doreen Swaze
CHOOSE MANUFACTURING CO LLC

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by p masters on 03/05/07 at 10:28:39

We are experiencing this problem as well.  Rebuilding WO in WO-A fixed JC-A but not JC-E.  Material issues still incorrect.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Shanthi  Nair on 03/06/07 at 06:26:53

We are seeing this problem happen too. Please let us know how we can fix this. This also messes up our MRP sometimes and it is hard to figure out the culprit suddenly.

Thanks
Shanthi

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by aostarly on 03/09/07 at 13:19:01

Lynn,
I recently turned on the Material Burden and BANG! Any material that was issued to a work order while it was turned on did not follow through the entire process. When you issued material to the work order it gave you no indication that anything was wrong.  However if you look at the job cost report, nothing shows as being issued to the work order. If you go to IN-A everything there is correct too. Only now rebuilding the work order DOES NOT fix anything. It's almost as if the flow is being interrupted before being written to the work order side of the transactions.
I turned the Material Burden off and now have to go through each work order, remove the Material Burden from the BOM, unissue the Material Burden part, reissue the parts to the work order, then adjust my physical inventory to match the proper qty on hand.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by JEMM on 03/15/07 at 11:53:41

Everyone experiencing this problem,
Could you confirm the following:  1)  Are you using the Material Burden feature (see SD-Q, Mfg)?  2) Do you have DBA accounting turned on?  3) Are you issuing material through WO-G or WO-I (backflush) or WO-F (backflush) or other?  4) Issuing scrap material in the same manner as #3?  5) Do you have same component multiple times on the same BOM?  6) Are the missing Material issues always for WOs with the same parent part or for the same component?  7) What general steps do you follow when completing a WO.  8) Are you using blank locations for parents or components?  9) Are the locations of the components different than those for the parents on the WO?

Any information may assist in determining the common thread.
Thanks,
Mike

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Dale on 03/15/07 at 12:11:37

1)  Are you using the Material Burden feature (see SD-Q, Mfg)?   NO
2) Do you have DBA accounting turned on?  YES
3) Are you issuing material through WO-G or WO-I (backflush) or WO-F (backflush) or other? WO-G & OTHER - we also issue materials through PO Line-Item Dedication. We do not backflush, ever.
4) Issuing scrap material in the same manner as #3? NO - We do not issue scrap at any time.
5) Do you have same component multiple times on the same BOM? NO
6) Are the missing Material issues always for WOs with the same parent part or for the same component? NO TO BOTH Addendum - one common factor here is that this is occurring only on jobs that have a mix of material issues through both WO-G and PO Line item dedication, but not every time. We typically do WO-G first, then the PO items come in later. However, the problem occurs at some point after all materials are issued.
7) What general steps do you follow when completing a WO? We close the Work Order and put the goods in Finished Production through WO-I.

All that said, our missing materials have shown up prior to completing a WO, where most or all of the materials are issued to the job at one point in time, then subsequently 75% no longer show up in either WO-A/Materials, or JC-A. However, the transactions show up in any and all Inventory screens.

We do a two-step process that fixes it everytime: Use WO-K-H to Rebuild Work Order Costs, then under WO-A, re-save the Work Order, answering yes to all the pop-up questions. That appears to fix it everytime.

We have not experienced this since the 2/14 update, but since it was occurring at random before, I can't say that it's fixed.


Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by DSWAZE on 03/15/07 at 12:19:51

Using DBA Classic Version 2004.1 with IS Tech Support update 2-14-2007
1)  Are you using the Material Burden feature (see SD-Q, Mfg)?  No

2) Do you have DBA accounting turned on?  Yes

3) Are you issuing material through WO-G or WO-I (backflush) or WO-F (backflush) or other?  WO-G

4) Issuing scrap material in the same manner as #3?  Yes, WO-G

5) Do you have same component multiple times on the same BOM?
No, but problem happens if material is issued to same work order at two different times. Will show the later of the issues ex issue pn 123 qty 50 on 3/12 , then issue pn 123 qty 30 on 3/14. The 50 no longer shows on work order thru WO-A or DC-I. but still shows in JC-E

6) Are the missing Material issues always for WOs with the same parent part or for the same component?  No

7) What general steps do you follow when completing a WO.  If closing only one work order use WO-I, if multiple work orders use WO-P

Running WO-K-H and WO-A does not fix.

Thank you and Regards,
Doreen Swaze
Choose Manufacturing Co LLC
714-327-1698 ext 206
714-327-1699 fax
dswaze@choosemfg.com

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by aostarly on 03/19/07 at 05:47:31

1)  Are you using the Material Burden feature (see SD-Q, Mfg)?  No, not any longer.
2) Do you have DBA accounting turned on? I think so but not sure. How do I verify?
3) Are you issuing material through WO-G or WO-I (backflush) or WO-F (backflush) or other? WO-G and no backflushing
4) Issuing scrap material in the same manner as #3?  WO-G
5) Do you have same component multiple times on the same BOM? No just once.
6) Are the missing Material issues always for WOs with the same parent part or for the same component? No, any work order that was created when the Matl Burden was turned on has had the problem, with no regard to any part or BOM.
7) What general steps do you follow when completing a WO? Finish sequences and enter qty complete through WO-F (Labor) then enter finished production through WO-I.
8) Are you using blank locations for parents or components? Yes, our inventory location is blank/nothing.
9) Are the locations of the components different than those for the parents on the WO? Nope just different bins, but all at same location.

Hope this helps!
Angelle Ostarly

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Dale on 03/19/07 at 06:09:14

Sorry - guess I missed two questions:

8) Are you using blank locations for parents or components? Blank Locations for all

9) Are the locations of the components different than those for the parents on the WO? No - all are blank. We only have one inventory "location" as far as DBA is concerned.

Thanks
Dale

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by jkmmfg on 03/19/07 at 06:28:21


JEMM wrote:
Everyone experiencing this problem,
Could you confirm the following:  1)  Are you using the Material Burden feature (see SD-Q, Mfg)? NO
2) Do you have DBA accounting turned on? YES
3) Are you issuing material through WO-G or WO-I (backflush) or WO-F (backflush) or other? WO-G
4) Issuing scrap material in the same manner as #3? NOT ENTERING SCRAP
5) Do you have same component multiple times on the same BOM? NO - ALL BOMS ARE SINGLE LEVEL
6) Are the missing Material issues always for WOs with the same parent part or for the same component? NO
7) What general steps do you follow when completing a WO.  ISSUE ALL MATERIAL AS IT IS KITTED, ENTER FINISHED GOODS WHEN SHIPPED, CLOSE WO IN WO-J WHEN WO IS COMPLETED.
8) Are you using blank locations for parents or components? WE WERE AND RECENTLY CONSOLIDATED ALL ITEMS INTO 1 LOCATION.  THE DISAPPEARING MATERIAL ISSUE OCCURRED (AND IS OCCURING) IN BOTH INSTANCES.
9) Are the locations of the components different than those for the parents on the WO? AGAIN, THEY WERE BUT AS OF JAN 1 07 ALL COMPONENTS AND PARENTS ARE NOW IN 1 LOCATION AND THE ERROR CONTINUES.

THANKS FOR YOUR FOLLOW THROUGH ON THIS!  MUCH APPRECIATED.
CINDY

Any information may assist in determining the common thread.
Thanks,
Mike


Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by fdiala on 03/21/07 at 07:15:52

We are having this problem but WO-A is not fixing it, it still shows in allocated, when we print picklists it shows the job has never been kitted while its almost complete. I hope you find a quick solution its messing the MRP and the kits on the floor, we dont know the shorts yet.

Here is what we are doing:

1)  Are you using the Material Burden feature (see SD-Q, Mfg)?  No
2) Do you have DBA accounting turned on? No
3) Are you issuing material through WO-G or WO-I (backflush) or WO-F (backflush) or other? WO-G
4) Issuing scrap material in the same manner as #3?  Don't use Scrap
5) Do you have same component multiple times on the same BOM? Sometimes  
6) Are the missing Material issues always for WOs with the same parent part or for the same component? No  
7) What general steps do you follow when completing a WO? WO-D, WO-G, WO-I
8) Are you using blank locations for parents or components? Yes
9) Are the locations of the components different than those for the parents on the WO? No Only have on loaction (Blank location)

Hope this helps and we get an answer real soon

Diala  


Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by cathyh on 03/21/07 at 09:24:43

I have not seen this in a long time but we used to.

1)  Are you using the Material Burden feature (see SD-Q, Mfg)?  No
2) Do you have DBA accounting turned on? Yes  
3) Are you issuing material through WO-G or WO-I (backflush) or WO-F (backflush) or other? mostly WO-I or WO-F (backflush but WO-G for lot controlled item
4) Issuing scrap material in the same manner as #3?  Don't use Scrap
5) Do you have same component multiple times on the same BOM? Sometimes  
6) Are the missing Material issues always for WOs with the same parent part or for the same component? No  
7) What general steps do you follow when completing a WO? WO-K-B if needed, WO-F,   WO-I
8) Are you using blank locations for parents or components? Yes  
9) Are the locations of the components different than those for the parents on the WO? No Only have on loaction (Blank location)

The old thread is in Inventory/INVTXN missing, April 06.  Could this error have been reintroduced?

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by fdiala on 03/26/07 at 10:37:51

Any news regarding those WOs. Our end of year is 30th of March, our WIPs are wrong and can not run MRP because allocated is overly stated. Previously kitted for items still show in allocated and does not show in WIP??  In addtion, now our stock keeper has to physically check every kit before putting shorts in !!

PLEASE HELP

Diala

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by JEMM on 03/26/07 at 12:13:02

We are still working on it.  Trying to duplicate the bug is what is causing the delay.

Mike

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by aostarly on 04/04/07 at 14:39:25

I'm not sure if this information will help or not, but we are seeming something else since turning off the Material Burden. I have one Work Order, that we know of so far, where the Material Burden (MB) was not included as a part to the work order, did not show up on the BOM and a qty was not issued to the MB part. Which is what it should be because MB is turned off.
However when you run the Inventory Transaction Report (IN-E) there is an adjustment of the qty to the customer/vendor of Material Burden issue. How or why it is making this adjustment we do not understand.
I do not have a material burden customer or vendor setup in the system. The date of the adjustment is the same day the remaining qty on the work order were issued. Our biggest fear is that now our OH qty is off because of the adjustment and whether or not this is happening with all of our work orders.

Angelle Ostarly

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by fdiala on 04/18/07 at 06:35:13

Any news yet regarding this issue?

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by fdiala on 05/15/07 at 10:55:45

Any news, it keeps on happening, its messing up the requirements.

Any suggestions?

Diala

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by shadowcaster on 05/18/07 at 04:54:07

Run some backups

get on the current version.

run fix binary zeros
reindex all files
then do a master reconsile inventory
check your counts on a few items
maybe even do an inventory  Ugh !

JW


Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by aostarly on 06/20/07 at 13:57:07

Anybody know of a fix as of yet? I have another WO that this is happening to.  The INVTRX are correct but the WO material issues are not showing up. Rebuilding the WO does not fix the problem any longer,  nor does SM-J-C,  B to A.
WO-O doesn't show anything hanging. JC-E shows the costs of the part on the Work Order. GL-C is showing the material as being issued to WIP, which means the transactions are hitting the GL. But it is missing the WO all together. We were hoping to ship the part today but with this going on we can't. Because we can't enter finished production, create a pack slip without creating more work for our selves and accounting.

One suggestion was to add additional cost of the parts through WO-O, but then it would require a Journal entry to back out the cost because the Material costs have already hit the GL in WIP for the parts.  

Living in Limbo!!!!
Version 2007.1 Build 2/14/07. Boss refuses to upgrade or patch software because every time we do, something that was working starts going crazy and ensues a new learning curve.

PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by jkmmfg on 06/20/07 at 14:17:05

We were having that problem and I upgraded to the latest version.  I'm still chasing all the old trx that didn't process correctly but I haven't encountered any new ones since the update... at least not yet.  I ran the utilities suggested but didn't notice that it resolved any historical problems.  Hopefully the patch has stopped the problem.  We are on 2004.1 IS Tech update 5/1/07.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by aostarly on 07/24/07 at 08:32:08

Lynn,
  I am still experiencing this problem and I have no clue as to how to fix it. Rebuilding the work order does not fix the work orders or make the issues to the work order appear. Yet inventory shows the material issued to the work order under transactions. JC-E also shows the material as being issued to the work order. The problem now is that I need to unissue the material from the work order, but the work order thinks that the material was never issued to it.  Boss will not allow me to touch the software for any upgrades, so please do not suggest that as the fix, because that can't happen if I want to keep my job.  Please point me in a direction for how to solve this.
I run weekly maintenance of fixing binary zeros, Inventory Reconciliation, trans to master, as well as rebuild all work orders. So maintanence is also not the answer or cutting the mustard.

Thanks,
Angelle Ostarly

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by jkmmfg on 07/24/07 at 09:23:23

Hate to say it, but we are still having the same problem too.  I had sincerely hoped the update had fixed it.  I can't trust the accuracy of my database... please find a fix.


Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Lynn_Pantic on 07/24/07 at 09:45:39

How are you issuing the materials?  The responses to the previous questions indicated WO-G but as Kit, List, or individual issues?  There are enough people with a problem that there has to be a program issue but on the other hand, not EVERYBODY is seeing it so we need to find the common thread.  

And Angelle, when we DO find it, I don't know how you expect to be able to get the fix if you can't load any updates.  If it is a programming issue and we fix it, you will need to install the fixed program.  As a general rule, the programs are so interrelated that you can't pop in just one program without matching the revision level of all the related programs.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by jkmmfg on 07/24/07 at 10:01:01

We issue individual p/n's through WO-G to the WO.  Kit issue "N" No serial number No Lot number.  Earlier we had one location, now we have 2, but all our WO's are in 1 location.  The 2nd location is an inventory location only.  We are not tracking scrap or using scrap codes in DBA at the present.
We issue material the same day, so generally it is not back dated and I can't think of any reason for it to be forward dated.
I can't think of any other information that might help.  Thanks for checking on this.

Title: Re: Material Issues to Work Orders Disappearing
Post by Karen Mason on 07/24/07 at 11:49:02

We are NOT experiencing problems with material issues disappearing.  May have in the past had something happen but rebuild work order always fixed the problem.

On some work orders, we issue our steel (raw material) as soon as it is available-so we don't double dip on releases.  This is an estimated amount.  We use WO-G.  Kit issue: NO.  When we get the actual raw material usage, we use a negative entry to remove the original entry, then we use Kit issue: LIST since we have other items that need relieved on the work order BOM.  

On other work orders, we use the WO-G Kit issue: LIST.  
Answers to questions:

1)  Are you using the Material Burden feature (see SD-Q, Mfg)? NO
2) Do you have DBA accounting turned on?  YES
3) Are you issuing material through WO-G or WO-I (backflush) or WO-F (backflush) or other? WO-G
4) Issuing scrap material in the same manner as #3?  YES
5) Do you have same component multiple times on the same BOM? NO
6) Are the missing Material issues always for WOs with the same parent part or for the same component? WE DO NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM AT ALL  
7) What general steps do you follow when completing a WO? WO-D, WO-G, WO-I
8) Are you using blank locations for parents or components? MIXTURE
9) Are the locations of the components different than those for the parents on the WO? BLANK LOCATION MOSTLY.  Accidentally setup a 2nd location and haven't figured out how to get rid of it.

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