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Message started by kkmfg on 02/20/07 at 19:35:34

Title: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/20/07 at 19:35:34

Just a little test of the new polling system and a way to see how all of you are liking the new forum look?

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by GasGiant on 02/20/07 at 19:55:50

Hey, now this board has all of the features of a real forum. Yay! I can go ZAP, right to the most recent post in a thread, get notices, and everything.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by Lynn_Pantic on 02/20/07 at 20:24:48

Still fighting the email response but yes, progress is being made.  Thanks again to Collin!!

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by tdlugosh on 02/20/07 at 22:19:25

The changing info under the header date keeps the screen jumping up and down as the number of lines in the message changes.  Very disconcerting!

Tom Dlugosh

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/21/07 at 04:23:20

It did that when the new software was first installed but the ISTech graphic is a lot bigger now and it doesn't do that for me anymore. It would be helpful to know the following info:

1. What operating system?
2. What web browser?
3. What screen resolution?
4. Did you increase the font size?

I ask all of that because so long as the news text is less height than the ISTech graphic you should get no jumping.


tdlugosh wrote:
The changing info under the header date keeps the screen jumping up and down as the number of lines in the message changes.  Very disconcerting!

Tom Dlugosh


Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by cmsk on 02/21/07 at 04:27:56


kkmfg wrote:
Just a little test of the new polling system and a way to see how all of you are liking the new forum look?



WOW, nicely done   :D

Is there a way to make the "new post" text on the main and forum pages, a brighter color?  Say like a red or something.  Might make it a bit easier to notice new posts, other than that, that's the only suggestion I have at this stage.  LOVE the new look -- and it's more "comfortable" to use, as it mirrors other forum layouts.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/21/07 at 04:58:51

There is a way to change the color of anything. Apparently it's a bit early in the morning as I'm just a little hazy on what exactly you would like changed?

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by GasGiant on 02/21/07 at 09:55:43

Or you could just use the "Mark all as red" button.

:-?

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by cmsk on 02/21/07 at 10:02:38


kkmfg wrote:
There is a way to change the color of anything. Apparently it's a bit early in the morning as I'm just a little hazy on what exactly you would like changed?




WOOHOO, I got an e-mail notification about this reply!!!!

Okay, on the Home Page, when a topic has a new post, the Last Post column shows a bold, Today, Yesterday, or the most recent date.  It might be a bit more "attention grabbing" if that text was in, say Red or something -- especially the Todays, or Yesterdays.

Also, is there a view to show just the topics that have had new posts, since the last login?  It's just a question, but there are one or two forums that I frequent that do that -- it's very affective for quick browsing of active topics.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by David Waldmann on 02/21/07 at 10:25:43


GasGiant wrote:
Yay! I can go ZAP, right to the most recent post in a thread...

That's something I was looking for, but haven't found it yet....?

:-/

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/21/07 at 10:31:33


Quote:
Okay, on the Home Page, when a topic has a new post, the Last Post column shows a bold, Today, Yesterday, or the most recent date.  It might be a bit more "attention grabbing" if that text was in, say Red or something -- especially the Todays, or Yesterdays.


Well, I suppose that would be possible to do. I'm not sure whether it's going to happen right now but it's something to keep in mind.


Quote:
Also, is there a view to show just the topics that have had new posts, since the last login?  It's just a question, but there are one or two forums that I frequent that do that -- it's very affective for quick browsing of active topics.


It doesn't seem like there is such a view. However, you can mark all topics viewed when you visit the forum and then when you come back later it will show you which boards have new posts and if you click on the board you'll see which topics have new posts. But no way of automatically seeing JUST the one's with new posts.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by cmsk on 02/21/07 at 10:39:12


kkmfg wrote:

Quote:
Okay, on the Home Page, when a topic has a new post, the Last Post column shows a bold, Today, Yesterday, or the most recent date.  It might be a bit more "attention grabbing" if that text was in, say Red or something -- especially the Todays, or Yesterdays.


Well, I suppose that would be possible to do. I'm not sure whether it's going to happen right now but it's something to keep in mind.

[quote]
Also, is there a view to show just the topics that have had new posts, since the last login?  It's just a question, but there are one or two forums that I frequent that do that -- it's very affective for quick browsing of active topics.


It doesn't seem like there is such a view. However, you can mark all topics viewed when you visit the forum and then when you come back later it will show you which boards have new posts and if you click on the board you'll see which topics have new posts. But no way of automatically seeing JUST the one's with new posts.
[/quote]

Good enough and thanks for the responses.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by Cyndee Pappas on 02/21/07 at 10:47:42


David Waldmann wrote:
[quote author=GasGiant link=1172028934/0#1 date=1172030150]Yay! I can go ZAP, right to the most recent post in a thread...

That's something I was looking for, but haven't found it yet....?

:-/[/quote]

Under the "Last Post" column, the post listed as "IN:yada yada" is a link to that post. Very nice. Much better than jumping to the thread and having to scroll to get to the post. Especially if you're like me and don't notice the multiple pages right off.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by RAGINE on 02/21/07 at 11:17:28

So.........how do you make the jumping go away 8-)

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by cmsk on 02/21/07 at 11:22:26


Cyndee Pappas wrote:
[quote author=David Waldmann link=1172028934/0#9 date=1172082343][quote author=GasGiant link=1172028934/0#1 date=1172030150]Yay! I can go ZAP, right to the most recent post in a thread...

That's something I was looking for, but haven't found it yet....?

:-/[/quote]

Under the "Last Post" column, the post listed as "IN:yada yada" is a link to that post. Very nice. Much better than jumping to the thread and having to scroll to get to the post. Especially if you're like me and don't notice the multiple pages right off.
[/quote]


Yes!!! This is very nice.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/21/07 at 11:25:05


RAGINE wrote:
So.........how do you make the jumping go away 8-)


I'm still a little confused as to why it's jumping still for some people. Can you answer for me the 4 questions I posed before:

1. What Operating System? (Including what version of Windows)
2. What Web browser? (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, etc)
3. What Resolution?
4. Did you change the font settings to make the fonts bigger?

Those four questions will help to narrow this down.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by Cyndee Pappas on 02/21/07 at 11:39:48


kkmfg wrote:

Quote:
Also, is there a view to show just the topics that have had new posts, since the last login?  It's just a question, but there are one or two forums that I frequent that do that -- it's very affective for quick browsing of active topics.


It doesn't seem like there is such a view. However, you can mark all topics viewed when you visit the forum and then when you come back later it will show you which boards have new posts and if you click on the board you'll see which topics have new posts. But no way of automatically seeing JUST the one's with new posts.


Being able to collapse the categories makes a nice, compact view. I like it.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by Tim Keating on 02/21/07 at 11:49:59


RAGINE wrote:
So.........how do you make the jumping go away 8-)


Ditto - it's like my screen is on crack.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by Tim Keating on 02/21/07 at 11:55:21


kkmfg wrote:
[quote author=RAGINE link=1172028934/0#13 date=1172085448]So.........how do you make the jumping go away 8-)


I'm still a little confused as to why it's jumping still for some people. Can you answer for me the 4 questions I posed before:

1. What Operating System? (Including what version of Windows)
2. What Web browser? (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, etc)
3. What Resolution?
4. Did you change the font settings to make the fonts bigger?

Those four questions will help to narrow this down.[/quote]

Windows 2000
IE6
800x600 (I'm over 40)
Text Size: Medium (Ditto)

The flashing news in the page header is alternating between 3 and 4 lines of text (in my browser) causing the screen to jump.




Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/21/07 at 11:58:40

Ok, that info is helpful. I suspected that it would be something like that. Medium text size is the default but 800x600 is way under what I use (I'm under 40) so I never saw the problem. I'll modify the template sometime today to allow more space so that it doesn't jump.


Tim Keating wrote:
Windows 2000
IE6
800x600 (I'm over 40)
Text Size: Medium (Ditto)

The flashing news in the page header is alternating between 3 and 4 lines of text (in my browser) causing the screen to jump.


Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by tdlugosh on 02/21/07 at 12:01:14


kkmfg wrote:
It did that when the new software was first installed but the ISTech graphic is a lot bigger now and it doesn't do that for me anymore. It would be helpful to know the following info:

1. What operating system?
2. What web browser?
3. What screen resolution?
4. Did you increase the font size?

I ask all of that because so long as the news text is less height than the ISTech graphic you should get no jumping.

[quote author=tdlugosh link=1172028934/0#3 date=1172038765]The changing info under the header date keeps the screen jumping up and down as the number of lines in the message changes.  Very disconcerting!

Tom Dlugosh

[/quote]

Answer to this problem is simple...widen the window.  I'm getting slow on the uptake in my old age.

Tom Dlugosh

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by Tim Keating on 02/21/07 at 12:02:10

Great job on forum.  We've come a long way from the email list days.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by GasGiant on 02/21/07 at 14:02:30

Gee, I'll be 44 on Monday and my screen res is 1280x1024. It might help that it's a 19" panel.

Don't lower your res, up your screen size!  ::)

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/21/07 at 14:26:01

Ok, I fixed the display glitch for those who were experiencing it. It was only effecting people who were in 800x600 resolution. Still, those people won't have it happen now.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by David Waldmann on 02/22/07 at 05:34:47


Cyndee Pappas wrote:
Under the "Last Post" column, the post listed as "IN:yada yada" is a link to that post. Very nice. Much better than jumping to the thread and having to scroll to get to the post. Especially if you're like me and don't notice the multiple pages right off.

Not to sound unappreciative, but what I find most helpful on other forums is when you open a thread you can select "Go to First Unread" and it takes you to the first response that is new since you last visited. If there have been 10 responses since you last visited and you are taken to the very last one, it's not really any more helpful than starting at the top of the page, IMHO.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by David Waldmann on 02/22/07 at 05:39:06


GasGiant wrote:
Gee, I'll be 44 on Monday
I just turned 43 last week


GasGiant wrote:
and my screen res is 1280x1024.
Ditto


GasGiant wrote:
It might help that it's a 19" panel.
Ditto


GasGiant wrote:
Don't lower your res, up your screen size!
And the bifocals don't hurt either ;)

Title: Just an observation...
Post by David Waldmann on 02/22/07 at 05:44:45

The PSQL General Issues still has problems realizing that there is nothing new there. It shows New Messages even though there aren't any. Once in a while on the old forum I could get it to clear by Marking All Posts as Read.

Now I can get the Main Screen to show that there are no new posts by Marking All Read, but if you go to the PSQL page it still shows a whole bunch of individuals as New.

Not a big deal, just letting you know.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by cmsk on 02/22/07 at 05:45:45


David Waldmann wrote:
[quote author=Cyndee Pappas link=1172028934/0#12 date=1172083662]Under the "Last Post" column, the post listed as "IN:yada yada" is a link to that post. Very nice. Much better than jumping to the thread and having to scroll to get to the post. Especially if you're like me and don't notice the multiple pages right off.

Not to sound unappreciative, but what I find most helpful on other forums is when you open a thread you can select "Go to First Unread" and it takes you to the first response that is new since you last visited. If there have been 10 responses since you last visited and you are taken to the very last one, it's not really any more helpful than starting at the top of the page, IMHO.[/quote]


This is very helpfull too, as is what I posted yesterday.  There are some forums that you can elect to show only new posts since your last visit -- this way you don't HAVE to look down through all of the topics to see what's new.  MAJOR time saver.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/22/07 at 07:57:12

While we're on the topic of things that would be nice:

I've been on other forums where the notification emails have a snippet of what was said. In the case of fairly short replies the notification email contains the whole reply. This is kind of nice because it allows you to figure out whether you really want to go to the forum and respond and/or read more or whether you can just leave it alone.

But, while I agree with the two issues brought up, I'm afraid I'm no PERL programmer and so it's unlikely that I'm going to be implementing such changes. However, I can bring up the issues on the YaBB forum to see if the developers of the forum software will think about adding such things.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by cmsk on 02/22/07 at 08:07:21


kkmfg wrote:
While we're on the topic of things that would be nice:

I've been on other forums where the notification emails have a snippet of what was said. In the case of fairly short replies the notification email contains the whole reply. This is kind of nice because it allows you to figure out whether you really want to go to the forum and respond and/or read more or whether you can just leave it alone.

But, while I agree with the two issues brought up, I'm afraid I'm no PERL programmer and so it's unlikely that I'm going to be implementing such changes. However, I can bring up the issues on the YaBB forum to see if the developers of the forum software will think about adding such things.



Yes, I agree with this as well... some notifies even include the entire reply post.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by tdlugosh on 02/22/07 at 10:20:43


David Waldmann wrote:
[quote author=GasGiant link=1172028934/15#22 date=1172095350]Gee, I'll be 44 on Monday
I just turned 43 last week


GasGiant wrote:
and my screen res is 1280x1024.
Ditto


GasGiant wrote:
It might help that it's a 19" panel.
Ditto


GasGiant wrote:
Don't lower your res, up your screen size!
And the bifocals don't hurt either ;)
[/quote]

I wish I was your age(s), I'll be 61 in a little over a month.

My screen resolution is set at 1024x768 and when the ie window is about 3/4 the width of the screen the text jumps up and down (still) with the change in the number of info lines in the upper right corner.  It's no big deal, I just widen the window to eliminate the jump, it just took me awhile to figure it out.

You guys technical skills with this stuff is way beyond me.  My level never progressed much beyond the early '60's when we used to program the hard drive of the F-106 with switches when our perforated tape reader was down.  By the way, that removable hard drive was about 12"x12"x16" and held about 64K of data.  I never dreamed where computers would be today.

Tom Dlugosh

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 02/22/07 at 10:34:03

Yeah, I made it quit jumping at 800x600 but if you move your window smaller than that it'll still do it. There isn't any good way to prevent it entirely as the news fader is dynamic and thus constantly changes size.

Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kevind on 03/06/07 at 14:05:29

Could you reduce the width of the first <td> that contains the logo from 500 to, say 400 or does that make the forum too hard to keep updated?  (The ISTECH logo is only about 380 wide)

Maybe that would reduce the 'Jumping' on narrower windows.


Title: Re: The New Forum
Post by kkmfg on 03/07/07 at 04:43:21

Oh yeah, I never even looked at that. I'm sure I could do that. In fact, it's done. Thanks for bringing that up!

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