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01/14/05 at 06:45:03
 
Am I correct in thinking, with the enhancement for JC-M dated 11/21/03, the wip summary should equal wip gl account for any given date??
 
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Reply #1 - 01/14/05 at 15:02:52
 
That's how I balance my WIP.
 
FYI: Sometimes the amounts written off to COGS are too much or too little.  If they make a significant impact on the bottom line, I use a journal entry to post the "should be" amount.  Then I reverse it when I close.  You need to add or subtract this amount manually from the JC-M total.
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Reply #2 - 01/17/05 at 06:11:01
 
Since our management prefers to separate WIP $ by components of material, labor and load, we use JC-P for material $; manually track labor $ using a beginning balance, adding JC-C (labor) for the month, and subtracting labor associated with units transferred to finished production; then loads are calculated as a % of labor $.
 
We are unable to find one report in DBA to provide  monthend WIP by these 3 individual components.  JC-M only provides one number for monthend WIP and does not allocate it among these 3 components.
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Reply #3 - 01/17/05 at 07:39:46
 
thanks Karen, we consistently have a problem with wip summary JC-M not matching the gl,  I'm not sure where we are going wrong.  
 
 
JC-M does have totals for labor, material etc....
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Reply #4 - 01/19/05 at 08:18:35
 
We have some class codes that direct costs for certain product codes to expense accounts instead of wip( for instance, R&D)  The wip summary shows the amount for the work order in the totals, but the GL account doesn't have the costs included.  We have to be sure to subtract these work orders from the wip summary before we compare totals. Does your company build any work orders for product codes whose costs are not collected in your gl account for wip?
The wip summary does have columns for labor and overhead and materials.  As long as none of the work orders have any finished production, these column totals should accurately reflect the totals for labor and materials that are in wip.
A while back we made the first adjustment to WIP GL to match our wip report, and since then the only time we have more than minor differences is when we do something that just doesn't work like finish production with a negative number on a reopened work order.  This correctly debits the wip gl but puts a negative number in the wip summary.
Just a couple of things to think about...
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Reply #5 - 01/19/05 at 09:10:45
 
...or sometimes if you close a workorder without a date, it will cause WIP not to balance
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Reply #6 - 01/21/05 at 15:48:13
 
Karen - I don't think you CAN close a WO without a date.  If you can, tell me how you did it so I can prevent it.  Shouldn't be able to.
 
Cathy - if you make your work orders that post to expense accounts Status I (for Indirect) they can be easily excluded from the WIP Summary report.  They will also make no variance posting when they are closed because the system assumes status I work orders are for recording expense items and will not have Finished Production and consequently will also not have a Variance.
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Reply #7 - 01/24/05 at 05:22:13
 
Lynn,
WO-J.  If you are a little too quick with the F10 (save) and do not go through the date field it records as 00/00/00.  This throws off reports when using an "as of" date.
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Reply #8 - 01/24/05 at 08:19:31
 
Thank you Lynn!  Everyone around here thinks I know all there is to know about DBA and with the help of you and IS Tech support, and all the forum members I don't really need to set them straight!  I have been struggling with "indirect" work orders for a long time and with one keystroke the problem is solved. I feel  Tongue but I'm very  Grin
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Reply #9 - 01/25/05 at 10:25:13
 
thank you for your thoughts, we will be able to use the indirect status as well.
 
I am noticing that when I print JC-M using a prior date, the actual finish dates fill in for the day after the prior date to the current date....each time I print a few days later the $ amount changes, it looks like it omits any work orders closed after the prior date... it this the way it is supposed to work?? ???
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Reply #10 - 01/25/05 at 15:27:18
 
It should be including the transactions through the as of data on open work orders plus transactions through that date on work orders now closed that were open as of that date.
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Reply #11 - 01/26/05 at 05:57:31
 
question to cathyh:  
 
We set up an indirect work order for Engineering of multiple prototypes.  For Status "I" Indirect work orders: what quantity, if any, do you use when creating your indirect work orders for Research?  Since finished production is not going to be entered (since this is chargeable to an expense account) can a quantity of 0 be used or should "1" be used???    Please advise.
 
 
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Reply #12 - 01/26/05 at 08:09:26
 
WE set the quantity to one, and we do finish production and close at the end of each month.  
Here is an example: We have a part number R&D with a class code R&D.  The class code has the same expense account for R&D in asset, COGS, and WIP account codes.  We have an absorbed labor account for R&D and this account is in all the absorbed labor accounts for the class code.   We build a work order for R&D ( a type N part) for quantity 1. WE issue materials, issue labor all month long. The costs are collected in "WIP"  which is the expense account for R&D.  When we finish and close at the end of the month we do it at actual cost.  The $$ go in and out( in asset out WIP, out asset in COGS for a net change of $0) and  since the part is an N type, there is no inventory to manage.  The costs, both labor and parts have been collected in the R&D expense account, and the absorbed labor has reduced the direct, variable, and fixed  labor costs, which are in  R&D expense.
We have a work order every month for general R&D expense, and sometime make a particular work order for a particular project.  WE use the same part number R&D(type N), we can fill in the description, and can even enter a routing and BOM.  
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Reply #13 - 01/26/05 at 10:38:52
 
Thanks for your prompt reply and explanation.
 
We are new to implementing type "I" orders as we always used status "R" for everything.  The forum has really helped educate us in DBA.  
 
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Reply #14 - 01/26/05 at 12:19:14
 
While we have been using indirect work orders for some time, we are just now using the correct type for the work order!
This forum is really a great help, and I don't know how I got along with out it before!
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Reply #15 - 01/26/05 at 14:20:28
 
We also use indirect work orders to accummulate costs on new assets or major asset repairs and for "departmentalized" indirect labor.  I only have one indirect labor figure on my GL, but I use WO to departmentalize.  For the indirect labor, we want to know what time/$ has been spent where, so we set up a routing for example in our forge department, we have a routing that has such things as M&E maint. & Repr; T&D Repair; change boards; cleanup/janitorial; lift truck operator; training; light up.  
 
We use certain series of work order #'s so all of one type will be together ie: 105-1, 105-2 etc. are the annual work orders for the indirect labor.  
 
500-5 to 599-99 are the work orders for new equipment or major repairs.  
 
700-1 to 999-99 are the work orders for tool & die.  
 
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Reply #16 - 02/01/05 at 10:47:55
 
Lynn,
 
I am noticing everytime I print JC-M using prior date of 12/31/04 and accepting the other default dates work order status R and F, each time I print on another date I am getting different results...it looks like when a work order is closed it does not show open on the as of date...is there a way to fix???
 
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Reply #17 - 02/03/05 at 09:55:46
 
Pam,
I found this out the hard way. You need to include types C and X (because that's its status now, I think).  I was afraid of getting a list including all C and X since the beginning of time, but it works correctly and only shows those open on the "as of" date that have been closed or cancelled since.
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Reply #18 - 02/03/05 at 17:42:31
 
Yes, Cyndee, you are right, you need to leave ALL the defaults (including the WO Status) the way the program wants them if you are running as of a prior date.
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Reply #19 - 02/09/05 at 08:08:22
 
That was definitely my problem thank you so much...
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