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ENTERING CONTRACT PRICES
06/23/15 at 11:38:01
 
The module SO-Q-H will not let me update contract prices. It opens with a p/n list rather than a customer list. You have to select a p/n at that point to get past the popup menu, but that does not do anything. When that clears, and you select a customer and p/n in the boxes on the left whether using lookups or just typing them in, it does not update those things shown on the right. It will not let you into the box to change the price, and kicks you out to base prices, etc., which is not what I need. If you try to create a new item, you still have to go through the p/n lookup, but when you click add and enter the customer and p/n, it does show up on the right side of the screen. You still can't enter any contract prices, though. I checked logged in as Admin, and got the same results.
Any insights?
Thanks for the help!
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Re: ENTERING CONTRACT PRICES
Reply #1 - 06/23/15 at 18:13:21
 
To Edit a Contract Price (which, by definition is for a particular customer), I usually Sort By > Item Number.
 
Once you do that, you will see the Customer(s) that have the CP and you can select and edit it.
 

 
Note that, even though they aren't "Contract Prices", Price Code prices also show up in this list, so you have to be sure to pick the one for the customer in question.
 
As mentioned in the other thread, Enter CP works fine for us, although there are occasional, not-understood issues with them being pulled in. We have been using CP since our implementation of DBA in 2000.
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Re: ENTERING CONTRACT PRICES
Reply #2 - 06/24/15 at 05:06:30
 
Oh, there's a T7 version. Sounds like that's what you're using.
 
That seems to work fine here, if a bit slow and clunky.
 
Make sure that the opening list Sort is set to Cust/Item. Then type the Customer ID to get to the part of the list that has prices for that customer. It pulls in all the info for that Customer and Item. Select, Edit and Save.
 
Same for adding New Item. At opening list, click Add New. Enter Customer ID, Item Number, starting/ending dates, qty & price.
 
Everything works fine here. Banner Date 4/10/15.
 
However, I prefer and will keep using the BK version, because as far as I can tell there is no advantage to the T7 one and it's much slower.
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Re: ENTERING CONTRACT PRICES
Reply #3 - 06/24/15 at 07:54:55
 
Hi, David,
 
I went back in, and the cust/item sort was the default, and the one that took me to the part it selected, regardless of what I selected. I tried the item only sort, and, boom, I was in. Just the opposite of your recommendation. Story of my life; only left-handed mitts and golf clubs at my house, but I'm a righty... We've been using contract prices as long as I can remember (like 1997 or so, maybe?), but this was the first time I had to make changes since the most recent program update.  
 
Now, another question for you. You've mentioned BK vs T7 versions. I know in the report system, there are .rtms that begin with BK, and ones that begin with T6, and that in the DBA program folder, there are all sorts of .run items that begin with BK, T6, and T7. But, I don't understand selecting a version, and don't find anything in the help files (It may be there, but I haven't found it.) that would explain what the versions are, what the benefits or pitfalls of the various versions might be, or how one would opt for a particular one. I am running 2015.1, 2/9/15, T7-7iRS, Pervasive Version 11.3, on Windows 8.1 machines on a Windows network. I see the T7 there in About, but that's what the updated software is straight out of the box. (virtual box these days, no longer a pound of diskettes one at a time into the A drive, or even a mailed CD rom...)
 
So, where do I learn about this? There are some things that I would opt for from the "old days," but don't know how.
 
Thanks again!
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Re: ENTERING CONTRACT PRICES
Reply #4 - 06/24/15 at 08:59:21
 
Ann, there is unfortunately no short answer.
 
The original DBA had all BK* modules and reports.
 
After Lynn/ISTech took over, they started re-writing some of the modules in T6. These modules look like the BK ones, but are Windows native and give less trouble. They came with T6* reports.
 
T7 is the latest version. These modules (can) have the same layout as the original ones, but are noticeably different; they have check boxes instead of Y/N fields, you can click wherever you want without fear of errors, and most screens can be viewed in a tabbed layout which is more "modern", but I personally prefer seeing as much as possible on one screen and so keep the old fashioned layout.
 
So, some modules are still in the BK format, some are T6 and some are T7.
 
To further complicate things, if you have Evo Notes turned on (they are one of the greatest improvements IST has made to Evo IMO), any T7 module that has a report where Notes may be included have EN* reports.
 
Basically, you don't need to worry about the reports unless you're modifying them and need to know which one to modify. The proper report is selected automatically by the module you're using.
 
I'm guessing that with every update you are updating all modules to the latest version. I personally prefer not to. True, I tend to be behind, and once in a while I find out that a problem or limitation we have is taken care of in an updated module, but I'd rather that than all of a sudden be presented with something that doesn't work for us.
 
If you want to go back to an older version of a module, you almost always can. Here's what I would do if you're having trouble with one.
  • Find out what version you're currently using. You can do this by running the module, closing it, and pressing F12 (unless you've assigned that as a shortcut, like I have - then go to Tools > Last Program Run), and make note of it.
  • Go to UT-A and type in the above found name, but substitute the previous version prefix. For instance, for T7SOQH, try T6SOQH. Note: T7 extensions are RWN and BK/T6 extensions are RUN. So if Last Program Run shows T7SOQH.RWN, type in T6SOQH.RUN.
  • You may well get a "The file does not exist" kind of message. This is for one of two reasons (well, three if you typed it wrong). The most common is that you have a T7 and there is no T6 - go back to the BK one. The other reason would be that the module was completely new at that time and there is no earlier version. In that case you're stuck with it.
  • If you like one of the earlier versions better, you now want to change your menu(s).
  • Go to TAS-G.  
  • If you want to change it for everyone, click Change Program Name, type in the current name and the name of the one you want to replace it with. Note that you need the extension in both places, and it does not do any checking for you.
  • If you just want to change one person's menu, you will have to select the Access Code you want to change, click Edit User, then the Group and Menu where the module is located. Then click the Menu Lines tab, scroll to find the line, i.e. SO-Q-H, select the "cell" where the program name is, press enter to edit, change to what you want and press enter again. Save.
  • Whichever method you chose, you will have to exit Evo and restart it to effect the change.

 
All the best,
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Re: ENTERING CONTRACT PRICES
Reply #5 - 06/25/15 at 06:37:29
 
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Great Explanation! There's a couple I will try when I have an available (!) free moment!
Ann
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