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NovaZyg Administrator When all else fails.. Read the instructions. Posts: 789 Gender:	User poll to see what screens you are using.. 02/13/08 at 10:55:25 This poll is to see what you the users are using.. Note the 12/15/07 update did fix 99% of the T7 errors (like internal stack fault, and too many pops) also a lot of work was done to make the grids work faster.
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Re: User poll to see what screens you are using..
Reply #1 - 02/14/08 at 14:29:51

My vote is for how I am using the different screens, but not how our other users are.
Many of the users here are uncomfortable with change and want to stick with the screens they are used to. They are particularly spooked by all of the picture icons instead of spelled out buttons! I have given everyone the option of using the "Windows" IN-A, WO-A, AP-A etc. and they are using these more and more, with the classic screen.
No one is using all the available new stuff but me. Mostly I am used to the tabbed view now and really like it.

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GasGiant Administrator How can I help? Posts: 1517 Gender:	Re: User poll to see what screens you are using.. Reply #2 - 02/15/08 at 06:32:56 Ditto cathyh.
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David Waldmann Active Member Live to work, or work to live? Posts: 1919 Gender:	Re: User poll to see what screens you are using.. Reply #3 - 02/15/08 at 09:38:08 I'm going to wait for things to be fixed before I start playing around with new stuff. I waste enough time on DBA as it is.
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Re: User poll to see what screens you are using..
Reply #4 - 02/20/08 at 11:19:12

most of my customers are exposed to the t7 menus, but stick with the BK menus like cathyh described, they do not want to fuss with figuring out which small picture to click on. they do like the grid lookup, re-sorts and substring searches, but if it means small pictures, they stay with the old bk menus.

i've had one company that converted entirely to Evo, and we set their menus to T7 for all the ones avail in 12/15/07 update. but that's been the only one to actively use t7.

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Re: User poll to see what screens you are using..
Reply #5 - 02/20/08 at 14:10:59

Well, one of the problems, as this has sort of been touched on...

Users HATE tabbed screens after they've been exposed to a form with all of the data on one screen. This is one of the big reasons that everyone here hated DBA NG. It's all cutesy forms and tabs and grids. People want to see all of the information at a glance without hitting any additional keys or using the mouse. I think that software developers get it in their heads that the tabbed format is cleaner and prettier and therefore better but users rarely seem to think so. Give them a cluttered interface with everything on one screen over a clean interface any day! This is one area where conventional wisdom is just plain wrong. People want to get at their information without being obstructed by the software. Ideally you want the users to forget about the software entirely and focus totally on the data.

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deburr Senior Member Posts: 487 Gender:	Re: User poll to see what screens you are using.. Reply #6 - 02/21/08 at 10:08:40 Ditto KKMFG.
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Re: User poll to see what screens you are using..
Reply #7 - 02/21/08 at 10:41:36

We have been developing the T7 Screens for the whole system for the past year, and other then a few places we are not using the tabbed view. ARA,APA,WOA,INA,INB,POA, and SOA are the only programs we are offering the Two views (Tabbed, and Classic) to. If a program used two or more screens in the past in Classic then we use a TAB, but the screens will change automatically when it needs to.

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Re: User poll to see what screens you are using..
Reply #8 - 02/21/08 at 10:58:58

My users dislike the itty-bitty icons (esp IN-A), too. I've been using them for a year and still can't remember what more than a few of them are. Mousing over and waiting for a pop up on seven buttons to find the one you want just ain't right. Isn't thee a way to shrink the icon a tad and get at least three letters on the button? (SO, WO, LOC, BIN, USE, etc.)

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Re: User poll to see what screens you are using..
Reply #9 - 02/21/08 at 11:08:00

Quote from NovaZyg on 02/21/08 at 10:41:36:

We have been developing the T7 Screens for the whole system for the past year, and other then a few places we are not using the tabbed view. ARA,APA,WOA,INA,INB,POA, and SOA are the only programs we are offering the Two views (Tabbed, and Classic) to. If a program used two or more screens in the past in Classic then we use a TAB, but the screens will change automatically when it needs to.

Yeah, and in those screens with a choice between tabbed and classic view guess what 90% of the people will pick. Wink

It's odd in a way because the tabbed screens are cleaner and look more modern but they really aren't as efficient as having all the data at arm's reach.

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Re: User poll to see what screens you are using..
Reply #10 - 02/21/08 at 11:44:56

The only thing that Tabs could have is security per tab, So information that you want everyone to access would be on one tab, and the next tab could be sensitive information that is not for everyone.. other then that there is no reason for tabs other then screen clutter...

The Picture Icons (picture is worth 1000 words), I guess you need 1001 words...
I'll see what I can do. but I think it would have to be one or the other, Text or an Icon. The toolbar buttons are small.

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Re: User poll to see what screens you are using..
Reply #11 - 02/22/08 at 13:25:51

Well, guess I have to weigh in here, too. My users

-do not like the tabs--they prefer the classic look, everything on one screen

-think the icons are too small, and can't remember which is for what function, and hate
having to try to remember which tab has which info

-claim overall it's more efficient for them to use the classic view--fewer clicks, info
retrieval faster

-don't get the grids at all

They did try to use the new GUI menus with the tabbed screens, but they just kept switching back to the classic views.

Val

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vgp Browser I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 1	Re: User poll to see what screens you are using.. Reply #12 - 05/26/08 at 16:15:04 I have to agree with most, as much as we tried to use the new screens, people wanting the old ones... I think if the icons had text instead of a picture of what is does more people would be inclined to use them even with the tabs
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GasGiant Administrator How can I help? Posts: 1517 Gender:	Re: User poll to see what screens you are using.. Reply #13 - 05/26/08 at 18:31:17 That was added in the most recent update.
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gtladmin Active Member Diving is fun, diving is fun! Posts: 1306 Gender:	Re: User poll to see what screens you are using.. Reply #14 - 05/27/08 at 06:31:59 Uh, I have the most recent update and I still see icons. Is there some setting you have to change, per chance? Val
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Poll
Question: What Screens are you using?
Evo and T7 (GUI) screens Classic look 13 (39.3%) Evo and T7 (GUI) screens Tabbed look 9 (27.2%) Evo and T6 (DOS looking) screens 3 (9%) Classic and BK (DOS) screens 8 (24.2%) Total votes: 33 « Created by: NovaZyg on: 02/13/08 at 10:55:25 »